NEW YORK - With time running short to keep the NFL's preseason completely intact, owners and player representatives are back in force at a Manhattan law firm, trying again to work out a new labor deal.
At least eight of the 10 members of the owners' labor committee are on hand for the talks, including Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and John Mara of the New York Giants.
Packers CEO Mark Murphy and Chargers owner Dean Spanos were not seen at the talks Wednesday but joined them Thursday.
On the other side, NFLPA chief DeMaurice Smith and at least six current or former players had arrived.
The NFL has been locked out for more than four months and the preseason is fast approaching. The Hall of Fame game that starts the exhibition season is scheduled for Aug. 7 between the St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears, who are both hoping to open training camp at the end of next week.